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        <title>News &amp; Politics QotW: The Taxman</title>   
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        <blockquote><p>As the April 15th tax filing deadline looms, many gay couples are facing higher tax bills because they do not get the federal tax benefits that accompany marriage. The same is true for heterosexual couples who chose not to get married. Do you think this is fair? </p></blockquote><p>
Of course it&#39;s fair.&#160; Marriage is a child-bearing union of two people who commit to raise up more little taxpayers.&#160; Or, from another perspective, it is a sacramental union of two souls before God, geared towards the production of more lives.&#160; The government has a vested interest in promoting stable taxpaying individuals, and is well within its rights to offer tax benefits to married people.&#160; God has a vested interest in the human race, and for whatever reason has decided we are worth the effort to love.&#160; <br />In the case of gay couples there is no moral or biological ability to be married as both participants are the same sex.&#160; This is just a fundamental concept here, but marriage produces children and homosexuals cannot reproduce unless they perform extreme measures to do so.&#160; Marriage, true marriage, is closed to them.&#160; Imitations can and have been made, but they lack the essential aspects of true marriage.<br />In the case of unwed couples, there is no real commitment to hold them together should things get tough.&#160; Bill wants to continue playing guitar at college parties, Jane wants to settle down.&#160; Poof, the relationship is over.&#160; Any kids get shuttled between the parents, or not, and grow up completely unaware of the benefits of a traditional family system.&#160; This not only damages children, causing increased juvenile delinquency and increasing the likelihood that they never have a successful marriage, but it also damages the two adults.&#160; Bitter feelings are the norm, and that is never good.&#160; The good news is that if they live together long enough they become common-law spouses.&#160; Why is that?&#160; Because the state recognizes that marriage is between a man, a woman, and God...perhaps?&#160; I don&#39;t know the tax benefits of being a common-law spouse, but all you people living together better watch out!<br />Homosexuals and unwed couples should not be afforded the benefits of marriage, because marriage is more than just a legal status.&#160; It&#39;s a moral action, a lifelong commitment.&#160; It&#39;s more than the state can offer us, and people lose sight of that.<br />From a practical standpoint, if the benefits of marriage were available to basically anybody regardless of their marital status they would simply lower the tax benefits of marriage.&#160; Get real, folks.<br /> </p>   <p style="clear:both;"> 
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        <title>Back in the Saddle Again...</title>   
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        <p>Howdy!&#160; I&#39;m officially back from my honeymoon and ready to get
plugged back into the real world.&#160; By real world, of course I mean
Internet punditry!&#160; <br />
But first, let me just say that the Bahamas are nice.&#160; Really
nice.&#160; Weather was beautiful and there were plenty of touristy
things to keep us occupied.&#160; We went to the Pirate Museum of
Nassau, where Captain &quot;Black&quot; Sparrow took us on a high-energy tour of
the place and repeatedly offered to watch our valuables for us.&#160;
We went snorkeling and saw all sorts of fish (including a big freaking
barracuda) and were introduced to conch salad.&#160; We found a random
horse stable and got to go riding on the beach.&#160; We ate more conch
salad.&#160; And when we weren&#39;t on land we were on a cruise ship that
catered to our every culinary whim.&#160; I asked for a rare steak and
got it rare, which is always a plus for me.
</p><p>
Anyway, round about Thursday I turned on the news for the first time
and to my horror saw that our asinine Congress has decided to alienate
one of the few secular Muslim states in the world.&#160; Turkey may
indeed have committed genocide against the Armenians, but it is
politically naive to point this out to one of our key allies in the war
against radical Islam.&#160; <br />
Or, from a certain perspective, a political masterstroke.&#160; Let&#39;s
say that Pelosi &amp; Co. actually meant to damage relations with
Turkey.&#160; This would put pressure on the Bush Administration, and
decrease our ability to wage war.&#160; Now we have to do the ol&#39; soft
shoe and assure our Turkish friends that we don&#39;t hold their past
misdeeds against them.&#160; <br />
If I were less controlled in my rhetoric, I would say that Congress has
come as close to legal treason as they can.&#160; But I&#39;m not saying
that.&#160; <br />
At any rate, this is old news by now.&#160; It probably amounts to
nothing more than a diplomatic flap.&#160; But my concern is that
certain elements in the government will promote an accumulation of
these minor flaps and make things that much more difficult for us in
the region.&#160; After all, it comes down to one thing:&#160; We can
choose to prosecute this war to a successful conclusion or we can
choose to do the opposite.&#160; I think I know where Congress stands.<br />
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        <title>Getting Married</title>   
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        <p>I&#39;m getting married today.&#160; Today!&#160; The wedding starts in
four hours.&#160; Four!&#160; I&#39;m so freaking weird right now.&#160;
Disassociation?&#160; I don&#39;t know.&#160; I put a little Kahlua in my
coffee this morning and that helped.&#160; Oh God.&#160; I&#39;m so ready
to be married, but I wish I didn&#39;t have to do it in front of so many
people.&#160; 
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We&#39;ll be having a Catholic Mass in Norfolk, and tomorrow we&#39;ll be
shipping out for the Bahamas for a six-day cruise.&#160; I&#39;m sooooo
ready for that.&#160; 
</p><p>
I&#39;m not going to make a toast, no sir.&#160; My brother will do that and we&#39;ll go from there.&#160; 
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I&#39;d ask you to pray for me if you pray, and if not to wish me luck all the same.<br />
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        <title>A Liberal Democrat&#39;s Perspective on Same-Sex Marriage</title>   
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        <blockquote><p><span style="font-size: 10pt; color: black; font-family: Arial;"><p style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt; line-height: 14.4pt;"><span style="font-size: 10pt; color: black; font-family: Arial;"><span style="font-size: small; color: #000000; font-family: verdana,geneva,arial,helvetica,sans-serif; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Verdana,Geneva,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif; font-size: 10pt;"><strong>Defining Marriage Down . . . <br />is no way to save it. <br /></strong>by David Blankenhorn <br />04/02/2007, Volume 012, Issue 28 <br /><a href="http://rs6.net/tn.jsp?t=ueysb5bab.0.xyuub5bab.yhccozaab.3110&amp;ts=S0233&amp;p=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.weeklystandard.com%2FContent%2FPublic%2FArticles%2F000%2F000%2F013%2F451noxve.asp" target="_blank">http://www.weeklystandard.com/Content/Public/Articles/000/000/013/451noxve.asp</a></span></span></p>
<div><span style="font-size: small; color: #000000; font-family: verdana,geneva,arial,helvetica,sans-serif; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Verdana,Geneva,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif; font-size: 10pt;">&#160;</span></div></span><span style="font-size: 10pt; color: black; font-family: Arial;"><span style="font-size: 10pt; color: black; font-family: Arial;"><span style="font-size: 10pt; color: black; font-family: Arial;"><span style="font-size: 10pt; color: rgb(51, 51, 51); font-family: Arial;">
<div><span style="font-size: small; color: #000000; font-family: verdana,geneva,arial,helvetica,sans-serif; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Verdana,Geneva,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif; font-size: 10pt;">Does
permitting same-sex marriage weaken marriage as a social institution?
Or does extending to gay and lesbian couples the right to marry have
little or no effect on marriage overall? Scholars and commentators have
expended much effort trying in vain to wring proof of causation from
the data--all the while ignoring the meaning of some simple
correlations that the numbers do indubitably show. </span></div>
<div><span style="font-size: small; color: #000000; font-family: verdana,geneva,arial,helvetica,sans-serif; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Verdana,Geneva,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif; font-size: 10pt;"><br />Much
of the disagreement among scholars centers on how to interpret trends
in the Netherlands and Scandinavia. Stanley Kurtz has argued, in this
magazine and elsewhere, that the adoption of gay marriage or same-sex
civil unions in those countries has significantly weakened customary
marriage, already eroded by easy divorce and stigma-free cohabitation. <br /></span></div>
<div><span style="font-size: small; color: #000000; font-family: verdana,geneva,arial,helvetica,sans-serif; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Verdana,Geneva,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif; font-size: 10pt;">&#160;</span></div>
<div><span style="font-size: small; color: #000000; font-family: verdana,geneva,arial,helvetica,sans-serif; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Verdana,Geneva,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif; font-size: 10pt;">William
Eskridge, a Yale Law School professor, and Darren R. Spedale, an
attorney, beg to differ. In Gay Marriage: For Better or for Worse?, a
book-length reply to Kurtz, they insist that Kurtz does not prove that
gay marriage is causing anything in those nations; that Nordic marriage
overall appears to be healthier than Kurtz allows; and that even if
marriage is declining in that part of the world, &quot;the question remains
whether that phenomenon is a lamentable development.&quot; <br /></span></div>
<div><span style="font-size: small; color: #000000; font-family: verdana,geneva,arial,helvetica,sans-serif; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Verdana,Geneva,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif; font-size: 10pt;">&#160;</span></div>
<div><span style="font-size: small; color: #000000; font-family: verdana,geneva,arial,helvetica,sans-serif; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Verdana,Geneva,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif; font-size: 10pt;">Eskridge
and Spedale want it both ways. For them, there is no proof that
marriage has weakened, but if there were it wouldn&#39;t be a problem. For
people who care about marriage, this perspective inspires no
confidence. Eskridge and Spedale do score one important point, however.
Neither Kurtz nor anyone else can scientifically prove that allowing
gay marriage causes the institution of marriage to get weaker.
Correlation does not imply causation. The relation between two
correlated phenomena may be causal, or it may be random, or it may
reflect some deeper cause producing both. Even if you could show that
every last person in North Carolina eats barbecue, you would not have
established that eating barbecue is a result of taking up residence in
North Carolina. <br /></span></div>
<div><span style="font-size: small; color: #000000; font-family: verdana,geneva,arial,helvetica,sans-serif; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Verdana,Geneva,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif; font-size: 10pt;">&#160;</span></div>
<div><span style="font-size: small; color: #000000; font-family: verdana,geneva,arial,helvetica,sans-serif; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Verdana,Geneva,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif; font-size: 10pt;">When
it comes to the health of marriage as an institution and the legal
status of same-sex unions, there is much to be gained from giving up
the search for causation and studying some recurring patterns in the
data, as I did for my book The Future of Marriage. It turns out that
certain clusters of beliefs about and attitudes toward marriage
consistently correlate with certain institutional arrangements. The
correlations crop up in a large number of countries and recur in data
drawn from different surveys of opinion.<br /></span></div>
<div><span style="font-size: small; color: #000000; font-family: verdana,geneva,arial,helvetica,sans-serif; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Verdana,Geneva,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif; font-size: 10pt;">&#160;</span></div>
<div><span style="font-size: small; color: #000000; font-family: verdana,geneva,arial,helvetica,sans-serif; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Verdana,Geneva,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif; font-size: 10pt;">Take
the International Social Survey Programme (ISSP), a collaborative
effort of universities in over 40 countries. It interviewed about
50,000 adults in 35 countries in 2002. What is useful for our purposes
is that respondents were asked whether they agreed or disagreed with
six statements that directly relate to marriage as an institution: </span></div>
<div><span style="font-size: small; color: #000000; font-family: verdana,geneva,arial,helvetica,sans-serif; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Verdana,Geneva,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif; font-size: 10pt;">&#160;</span></div>
<div><span style="font-size: small; color: #000000; font-family: verdana,geneva,arial,helvetica,sans-serif; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Verdana,Geneva,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif; font-size: 10pt;">1. Married people are generally happier than unmarried people. </span></div>
<div><span style="font-size: small; color: #000000; font-family: verdana,geneva,arial,helvetica,sans-serif; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Verdana,Geneva,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif; font-size: 10pt;">&#160;</span></div>
<div><span style="font-size: small; color: #000000; font-family: verdana,geneva,arial,helvetica,sans-serif; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Verdana,Geneva,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif; font-size: 10pt;">2. People who want children ought to get married. <br /></span></div>
<div><span style="font-size: small; color: #000000; font-family: verdana,geneva,arial,helvetica,sans-serif; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Verdana,Geneva,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif; font-size: 10pt;">&#160;</span></div>
<div><span style="font-size: small; color: #000000; font-family: verdana,geneva,arial,helvetica,sans-serif; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Verdana,Geneva,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif; font-size: 10pt;">3. One parent can bring up a child as well as two parents together. <br /></span></div>
<div><span style="font-size: small; color: #000000; font-family: verdana,geneva,arial,helvetica,sans-serif; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Verdana,Geneva,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif; font-size: 10pt;">&#160;</span></div>
<div><span style="font-size: small; color: #000000; font-family: verdana,geneva,arial,helvetica,sans-serif; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Verdana,Geneva,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif; font-size: 10pt;">4. It is all right for a couple to live together without intending to get married. <br /></span></div>
<div><span style="font-size: small; color: #000000; font-family: verdana,geneva,arial,helvetica,sans-serif; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Verdana,Geneva,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif; font-size: 10pt;">&#160;</span></div>
<div><span style="font-size: small; color: #000000; font-family: verdana,geneva,arial,helvetica,sans-serif; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Verdana,Geneva,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif; font-size: 10pt;">5. Divorce is usually the best solution when a couple can&#39;t seem to work out their marriage problems. <br /></span></div>
<div><span style="font-size: small; color: #000000; font-family: verdana,geneva,arial,helvetica,sans-serif; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Verdana,Geneva,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif; font-size: 10pt;">&#160;</span></div>
<div><span style="font-size: small; color: #000000; font-family: verdana,geneva,arial,helvetica,sans-serif; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Verdana,Geneva,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif; font-size: 10pt;">6. The main purpose of marriage these days is to have children. <br /></span></div>
<div><span style="font-size: small; color: #000000; font-family: verdana,geneva,arial,helvetica,sans-serif; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Verdana,Geneva,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif; font-size: 10pt;">&#160;</span></div>
<div><span style="font-size: small; color: #000000; font-family: verdana,geneva,arial,helvetica,sans-serif; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Verdana,Geneva,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif; font-size: 10pt;">Let&#39;s
stipulate that for statements one, two, and six, an &quot;agree&quot; answer
indicates support for traditional marriage as an authoritative
institution. Similarly, for statements three, four, and five, let&#39;s
stipulate that agreement indicates a lack of support, or less support,
for traditional marriage. <br /></span></div>
<div><span style="font-size: small; color: #000000; font-family: verdana,geneva,arial,helvetica,sans-serif; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Verdana,Geneva,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif; font-size: 10pt;">&#160;</span></div>
<div><span style="font-size: small; color: #000000; font-family: verdana,geneva,arial,helvetica,sans-serif; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Verdana,Geneva,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif; font-size: 10pt;">Then
divide the countries surveyed into four categories: those that permit
same-sex marriage; those that permit same-sex civil unions (but not
same-sex marriage); those in which some regions permit same-sex
marriage; and those that do not legally recognize same-sex unions. <br /></span></div>
<div><span style="font-size: small; color: #000000; font-family: verdana,geneva,arial,helvetica,sans-serif; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Verdana,Geneva,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif; font-size: 10pt;">&#160;</span></div>
<div><span style="font-size: small; color: #000000; font-family: verdana,geneva,arial,helvetica,sans-serif; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Verdana,Geneva,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif; font-size: 10pt;">The
correlations are strong. Support for marriage is by far the weakest in
countries with same-sex marriage. The countries with marriage-like
civil unions show significantly more support for marriage. The two
countries with only regional recognition of gay marriage (Australia and
the United States) do better still on these support-for-marriage
measurements, and those without either gay marriage or marriage-like
civil unions do best of all. <br /></span></div>
<div><span style="font-size: small; color: #000000; font-family: verdana,geneva,arial,helvetica,sans-serif; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Verdana,Geneva,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif; font-size: 10pt;">&#160;</span></div>
<div><span style="font-size: small; color: #000000; font-family: verdana,geneva,arial,helvetica,sans-serif; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Verdana,Geneva,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif; font-size: 10pt;">In
some instances, the differences are quite large. For example, people in
nations with gay marriage are less than half as likely as people in
nations without gay unions to say that married people are happier.
Perhaps most important, they are significantly less likely to say that
people who want children ought to get married (38 percent vs. 60
percent). They are also significantly more likely to say that
cohabiting without intending to marry is all right (83 percent vs. 50
percent), and are somewhat more likely to say that divorce is usually
the best solution to marital problems. Respondents in the countries
with gay marriage are significantly more likely than those in Australia
and the United States to say that divorce is usually the best solution.
<br /></span></div>
<div><span style="font-size: small; color: #000000; font-family: verdana,geneva,arial,helvetica,sans-serif; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Verdana,Geneva,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif; font-size: 10pt;">&#160;</span></div>
<div><span style="font-size: small; color: #000000; font-family: verdana,geneva,arial,helvetica,sans-serif; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Verdana,Geneva,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif; font-size: 10pt;">A
similar exercise using data from a different survey yields similar
results. The World Values Survey, based in Stockholm, Sweden,
periodically interviews nationally representative samples of the
publics of some 80 countries on six continents--over 100,000 people in
all--on a range of issues. It contains three statements directly
related to marriage as an institution: <br /></span></div>
<div><span style="font-size: small; color: #000000; font-family: verdana,geneva,arial,helvetica,sans-serif; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Verdana,Geneva,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif; font-size: 10pt;">&#160;</span></div>
<div><span style="font-size: small; color: #000000; font-family: verdana,geneva,arial,helvetica,sans-serif; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Verdana,Geneva,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif; font-size: 10pt;">1. A child needs a home with both a father and a mother to grow up happily. <br /></span></div>
<div><span style="font-size: small; color: #000000; font-family: verdana,geneva,arial,helvetica,sans-serif; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Verdana,Geneva,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif; font-size: 10pt;">&#160;</span></div>
<div><span style="font-size: small; color: #000000; font-family: verdana,geneva,arial,helvetica,sans-serif; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Verdana,Geneva,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif; font-size: 10pt;">2. It is all right for a woman to want a child but not a stable relationship with a man.<br /></span></div>
<div><span style="font-size: small; color: #000000; font-family: verdana,geneva,arial,helvetica,sans-serif; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Verdana,Geneva,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif; font-size: 10pt;">&#160;</span></div>
<div><span style="font-size: small; color: #000000; font-family: verdana,geneva,arial,helvetica,sans-serif; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Verdana,Geneva,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif; font-size: 10pt;">3. Marriage is an outdated institution. <br /></span></div>
<div><span style="font-size: small; color: #000000; font-family: verdana,geneva,arial,helvetica,sans-serif; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Verdana,Geneva,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif; font-size: 10pt;">&#160;</span></div>
<div><span style="font-size: small; color: #000000; font-family: verdana,geneva,arial,helvetica,sans-serif; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Verdana,Geneva,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif; font-size: 10pt;">Again
grouping the countries according to the legal status of same-sex
unions, the data from the 1999-2001 wave of interviews yield a clear
pattern. Support for marriage as an institution is weakest in those
countries with same-sex marriage. Countries with same-sex civil unions
show more support, and countries with regional recognition show still
more. By significant margins, support for marriage is highest in
countries that extend no legal recognition to same-sex unions. <br /></span></div>
<div><span style="font-size: small; color: #000000; font-family: verdana,geneva,arial,helvetica,sans-serif; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Verdana,Geneva,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif; font-size: 10pt;">&#160;</span></div>
<div><span style="font-size: small; color: #000000; font-family: verdana,geneva,arial,helvetica,sans-serif; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Verdana,Geneva,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif; font-size: 10pt;">So
what of it? Granted that these correlations may or may not reflect
causation, what exactly can be said about the fact that certain values
and attitudes and legal arrangements tend to cluster? <br /></span></div>
<div><span style="font-size: small; color: #000000; font-family: verdana,geneva,arial,helvetica,sans-serif; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Verdana,Geneva,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif; font-size: 10pt;">&#160;</span></div>
<div><span style="font-size: small; color: #000000; font-family: verdana,geneva,arial,helvetica,sans-serif; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Verdana,Geneva,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif; font-size: 10pt;">Here&#39;s
an analogy. Find some teenagers who smoke, and you can confidently
predict that they are more likely to drink than their nonsmoking peers.
Why? Because teen smoking and drinking tend to hang together. What&#39;s
more, teens who engage in either of these activities are also more
likely than nonsmokers or nondrinkers to engage in other risky
behaviors, such as skipping school, getting insufficient sleep, and
forming friendships with peers who get into trouble. <br /></span></div>
<div><span style="font-size: small; color: #000000; font-family: verdana,geneva,arial,helvetica,sans-serif; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Verdana,Geneva,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif; font-size: 10pt;">&#160;</span></div>
<div><span style="font-size: small; color: #000000; font-family: verdana,geneva,arial,helvetica,sans-serif; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Verdana,Geneva,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif; font-size: 10pt;">Because
these behaviors correlate and tend to reinforce one another, it is
virtually impossible for the researcher to pull out any one from the
cluster and determine that it alone is causing or is likely to cause
some personal or (even harder to measure) social result. All that can
be said for sure is that these things go together. To the degree
possible, parents hope that their children can avoid all of them, the
entire syndrome--drinking, smoking, skipping school, missing sleep, and
making friends with other children who get into trouble--in part
because each of them increases exposure to the others. <br /></span></div>
<div><span style="font-size: small; color: #000000; font-family: verdana,geneva,arial,helvetica,sans-serif; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Verdana,Geneva,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif; font-size: 10pt;">&#160;</span></div>
<div><span style="font-size: small; color: #000000; font-family: verdana,geneva,arial,helvetica,sans-serif; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Verdana,Geneva,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif; font-size: 10pt;">It&#39;s
the same with marriage. Certain trends in values and attitudes tend to
cluster with each other and with certain trends in behavior. A rise in
unwed childbearing goes hand in hand with a weakening of the belief
that people who want to have children should get married. High divorce
rates are encountered where the belief in marital permanence is low.
More one-parent homes are found where the belief that children need
both a father and a mother is weaker. A rise in nonmarital cohabitation
is linked at least partly to the belief that marriage as an institution
is outmoded. The legal endorsement of gay marriage occurs where the
belief prevails that marriage itself should be redefined as a private
personal relationship. And all of these marriage-weakening attitudes
and behaviors are linked. Around the world, the surveys show, these
things go together. <br /></span></div>
<div><span style="font-size: small; color: #000000; font-family: verdana,geneva,arial,helvetica,sans-serif; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Verdana,Geneva,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif; font-size: 10pt;">&#160;</span></div>
<div><span style="font-size: small; color: #000000; font-family: verdana,geneva,arial,helvetica,sans-serif; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Verdana,Geneva,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif; font-size: 10pt;">Eskridge
and Spedale are right. We cannot demonstrate statistically what exactly
causes what, or what is likely to have what consequences in the future.
But we do see in country after country that these phenomena form a
pattern that recurs. They are mutually reinforcing. Socially, an
advance for any of them is likely to be an advance for all of them. An
individual who tends to accept any one or two of them probably accepts
the others as well. And as a political and strategic matter, anyone who
is fighting for any one of them should--almost certainly already
does--support all of them, since a victory for any of them clearly
coincides with the advance of the others. Which is why, for example,
people who have devoted much of their professional lives to attacking
marriage as an institution almost always favor gay marriage. These
things do go together.<br /></span></div>
<div><span style="font-size: small; color: #000000; font-family: verdana,geneva,arial,helvetica,sans-serif; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Verdana,Geneva,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif; font-size: 10pt;">&#160;</span></div>
<div><span style="font-size: small; color: #000000; font-family: verdana,geneva,arial,helvetica,sans-serif; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Verdana,Geneva,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif; font-size: 10pt;">Inevitably,
the pattern discernible in the statistics is borne out in the
statements of the activists. Many of those who most vigorously champion
same-sex marriage say that they do so precisely in the hope of
dethroning once and for all the traditional &quot;conjugal institution.&quot;<br /></span></div>
<div><span style="font-size: small; color: #000000; font-family: verdana,geneva,arial,helvetica,sans-serif; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Verdana,Geneva,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif; font-size: 10pt;">That
phrase comes from Judith Stacey, professor of sociology at New York
University and a major expert witness testifying in courts and
elsewhere for gay marriage. She views the fight for same-sex marriage
as the &quot;vanguard site&quot; for rebuilding family forms. The author of
journal articles like &quot;Good Riddance to &#39;The Family,&#39;&quot; she argues
forthrightly that &quot;if we begin to value the meaning and quality of
intimate bonds over their customary forms, there are few limits to the
kinds of marriage and kinship patterns people might wish to devise.&quot;<br /></span></div>
<div><span style="font-size: small; color: #000000; font-family: verdana,geneva,arial,helvetica,sans-serif; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Verdana,Geneva,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif; font-size: 10pt;">&#160;</span></div>
<div><span style="font-size: small; color: #000000; font-family: verdana,geneva,arial,helvetica,sans-serif; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Verdana,Geneva,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif; font-size: 10pt;">Similarly,
David L. Chambers, a law professor at the University of Michigan widely
published on family issues, favors gay marriage for itself but also
because it would likely &quot;make society receptive to the further
evolution of the law.&quot; What kind of evolution? He writes, &quot;If the
deeply entrenched paradigm we are challenging is the romantically
linked man-woman couple, we should respect the similar claims made
against the hegemony of the two-person unit and against the romantic
foundations of marriage.&quot;<br /></span></div>
<div><span style="font-size: small; color: #000000; font-family: verdana,geneva,arial,helvetica,sans-serif; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Verdana,Geneva,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif; font-size: 10pt;">&#160;</span></div>
<div><span style="font-size: small; color: #000000; font-family: verdana,geneva,arial,helvetica,sans-serif; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Verdana,Geneva,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif; font-size: 10pt;">Examples
could be multiplied--the recently deceased Ellen Willis, professor of
journalism at NYU and head of its Center for Cultural Reporting and
Criticism, expressed the hope that gay marriage would &quot;introduce an
implicit revolt against the institution into its very heart, further
promoting the democratization and secularization of personal and sexual
life&quot;--but they can only illustrate the point already established by
the large-scale international comparisons: Empirically speaking, gay
marriage goes along with the erosion, not the shoring up, of the
institution of marriage.<br /></span></div>
<div><span style="font-size: small; color: #000000; font-family: verdana,geneva,arial,helvetica,sans-serif; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Verdana,Geneva,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif; font-size: 10pt;">&#160;</span></div>
<div><span style="font-size: small; color: #000000; font-family: verdana,geneva,arial,helvetica,sans-serif; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Verdana,Geneva,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif; font-size: 10pt;">These
facts have two implications. First, to the degree that it makes any
sense to oppose gay marriage, it makes sense only if one also opposes
with equal clarity and intensity the other main trends pushing our
society toward postinstitutional marriage. After all, the big idea is
not to stop gay marriage. The big idea is to stop the erosion of
society&#39;s most pro-child institution. Gay marriage is only one facet of
the larger threat to the institution. <br /></span></div>
<div><span style="font-size: small; color: #000000; font-family: verdana,geneva,arial,helvetica,sans-serif; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Verdana,Geneva,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif; font-size: 10pt;">&#160;</span></div>
<div><span style="font-size: small; color: #000000; font-family: verdana,geneva,arial,helvetica,sans-serif; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Verdana,Geneva,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif; font-size: 10pt;">Similarly,
it&#39;s time to recognize that the beliefs about marriage that correlate
with the push for gay marriage do not exist in splendid isolation,
unrelated to marriage&#39;s overall institutional prospects. Nor do those
values have anything to do with strengthening the institution,
notwithstanding the much-publicized but undocumented claims to the
contrary from those making the &quot;conservative case&quot; for gay marriage. <br /></span></div>
<div><span style="font-size: small; color: #000000; font-family: verdana,geneva,arial,helvetica,sans-serif; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Verdana,Geneva,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif; font-size: 10pt;">&#160;</span></div>
<div><span style="font-size: small; color: #000000; font-family: verdana,geneva,arial,helvetica,sans-serif; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Verdana,Geneva,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif; font-size: 10pt;">Instead,
the deep logic of same-sex marriage is clearly consistent with what
scholars call deinstitutionalization--the overturning or weakening of
all of the customary forms of marriage, and the dramatic shrinking of
marriage&#39;s public meaning and institutional authority. Does
deinstitutionalization necessarily require gay marriage? Apparently
not. For decades heterosexuals have been doing a fine job on that front
all by themselves. But gay marriage clearly presupposes and reinforces
deinstitutionalization. <br /></span></div>
<div><span style="font-size: small; color: #000000; font-family: verdana,geneva,arial,helvetica,sans-serif; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Verdana,Geneva,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif; font-size: 10pt;">&#160;</span></div>
<div><span style="font-size: small; color: #000000; font-family: verdana,geneva,arial,helvetica,sans-serif; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Verdana,Geneva,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif; font-size: 10pt;">By
itself, the &quot;conservative case&quot; for gay marriage might be attractive.
It would be gratifying to extend the benefits of marriage to same-sex
couples--if gay marriage and marriage renewal somehow fit together. But
they do not. As individuals and as a society, we can strive to maintain
and strengthen marriage as a primary social institution and society&#39;s
best welfare plan for children (some would say for men and women too).
Or we can strive to implement same-sex marriage. But unless we are
prepared to tear down with one hand what we are building up with the
other, we cannot do both.<br /></span></div>
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<div>&#160;</div>David Blankenhorn is president of the New York-based Institute for American Values and the author of </em>The Future of Marriage <em>(Encounter Books).&#160; </em></span></div></span></span></span></span></blockquote>
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